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Lightpad Block M + Live Block, Windows 10

Hello,

 Im owner of Lightpad block M and it works well with cable and windows 10. ROLI Dashboard finds it with no problems at all.

Recently I bought Live block and connected it to my Lightpad block M and Dashboard cant recognize the block even the LEDs are lighted up. Is there some solution? I know windows 10 cant use bluetooth but I thought that the information is transmitted through the DNA connectors.

Why I didnt have any concerns while buying the live block was because my friend has also Lightpad block M and when we connected them together, Dashboard via windows 10 recognized both lightpad blocks, the second one connected only with the DNA connectors.

Any idea?

Thank you


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Hi Marcin,


Thanks for your note, and I can understand your frustration. We're working on firmware updates over DNA for a future release – this will allow you to update Control Blocks on Windows directly. Thanks for your patience in the meantime.


Red


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When attached to the Lightpad Block, the Live Block should change octaves, scales, and chords of the attached Lightpad. You may want to make sure that in ROLI Dashboard the "Midi CC" mode is not selected for your Live Block and that your Lightpad Block has the Note Grid app loaded. Let me know if this helps or if you have more questions.


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Currently Control Blocks can either be set to Midi CC mode on or off, although I can see how it'd be useful to select the behavior on a per-button basis. We do have an update planned for the near future which should successfully allow the buttons to hold, toggle, gate, etc. Please let me know if you have any questions in the meantime.


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Hello . I am slowly losing my patience. Finally I updated Live Block to 0.4.2 via Iphone. Now when new updates appears - namely.. 0.4.3 for Lightpad  - there is the same problem. Live block is visible but now is disabled and I can't update it again ( by.syx file also) . I see only  the window with information that I must connect my block directly to usb not via dna. Will it be the same every time? It's frustrating and i must run for friend's iphone again

MS

Hello 


I have another problem with the M lightpad. At all times such a message is activated and the dashboard changes the app itself (the view in the dashboard is different than the mode on the device) Even when I run only the web browser in the background dashboard informs me about the control and makes a mess in the work modes. Both the device and the dashboard have the latest update

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Hi Jan,


It sounds like your Live Block may be on an older version of firmware, which would explain why ROLI Dashboard isn't recognizing it. Currently BLOCKS firmware isn't able to be updated via DNA connectors, although we hope to add this functionality in the near future. 


In the meantime, if possible I recommend updating your Live Block's firmware via an iOS or MacOS device first, and then once its firmware is updated you should be able to use it normally with your system. Please let me know if you have any questions.


Thanks,

Red

Hello,

 Yeah, like you said. Tried borrowing my friends iOS device, udpated firmware and now dashboard recognizes the live block. Unfortunately I bought the live block to change octaves, scales and arps on my lightpad block M and it seems its not working outside of NOISE app :( Any suggestions? Im using my ROLI products only in PC DAWs. There is no opiton in the ROLI dashboard to map the octave button to set the octaves of the ightpad block M, which is weird. I think all of the PC users that buy the live block want this feature.

Live Block Not Being Seen by Roli Dashboard or other Softwares:


Just wanted to add some comments about this thread.  I had gone through the whole thing from start to finish and tried everything to no avail. But I did not give up. I tried getting the Roli Dashboard to recognize my Live Block HSVC and also tried Noize app on iPhone SEVERAL TIMES. 


I don't know what changed but finally the Noize app (even though previously connected to the Live Block many times) gave me the option to update the firmware. The Live Block goes dark before you even know that the option to update is there. After you choose to update it will give you the option to connect another Block--choose this and reconnect to your Live Block. It will likely take you through the update steps multiple times (I had to do it 3 times). Finally it will tell you that you are up to date.


It will now work with the Noize app and after using the DNA connection to your Lightpad Block or Seaboard Block the Roli Dashboard will see it.


Honestly this is quite a process---hours long---in order to find a solution to the Control Blocks not working as they should because the firmware is too old. I think that Roli should put this in a manual or something that ships with the devices (or at least the mention of the URL that takes you there) so that someone doesn't have to go through so much time to find a solution (I happened along this post but others may not be so lucky to find this) all the while thinking they were shipped a defective device.


Note: any mention above about Midi CC mode beiing on or off will not make any sense to you if Roli Dashboard does not see your Control Block. You need to resurrect your device from the dead using and iPhone or iPad.

@Ben, the behavior of the LEDs should correspond with the scale selected; see this article for full details.


@Tom, thanks for weighing in. @Marcin, in case you need the firmware files, please see this guide.

For futurelings that come here looking for a workaround and if you have a Galaxy S8/S8+, the following was successful for me:


* Find and install the 3.0.5 version of the Noise app APK (just google "Noise apk 3.0.5", you'll find it)

* Disconnect everything from USB cables (and bluetooth too, although I presume you probably don't have anything capable of connecting to them via bluetooth at the moment anyhow)

* Connect the little block to the lightpad or seaboard via the DNA snap connectors

* Turn on the lightpad or seaboard - this'll turn on the lil' block too

* Go to your android settings > Applications > Noise app info > Permissions > Make sure all permissions are enabled.  I think not having them enabled was causing my entire phone to restart when I'd try to connect a block.

* Update the firmware

My Lightpad block M is firmware 0.4.2, my Live block is 0.2.5, which should be the newest versions. Roli dashboard is the newest version.

MIDI note CC is off, note grid is on. Also tried restarting to default setting both devices. Still doesnt work. Only thing that works is the sustain button :(

Im on windows 10, blocks connected through USB cable. I can see the LEDs changing while changing octaves and stuff on the live block but nothing happens. The octaves in the LIghtpad block M in the dashboard doesnt change and when I play instrument in bitwig, it plays still the same octave.

Is it possible that my specific piece of Live block is corrupted? (Tried NOISE app on iOS device, works well)

UPDATE: It seems like you need to update firmware for the live block twice!  One to 0.2.5 and second to 0.4.2. The octave, chord and scale buttons are now working. But the arp button is not working and the sustain is on toggle. Is there some way to change only some of the buttons to behave like Midi CC and assign them to other DAW stuff and the sustain to hold?

Hello . I can't update Roli Live Block because Dashboard doesn't  even see  it.  When I conect it to lightpad I see red  bar of lights (not green) and only half of buttons lights up. It is possible to get older versions of firmware to lightpad? Maybe this can help

Hi Marcin, it does sound like you'll need to update your Live Block to current firmware using an iOS or MacOS device prior to using it with your Windows computer. Please feel free to get in touch with our support team if you have any more questions.

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