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Things Rise 49 needs to be a great controller.

1. White strips on all the keys. When on a dark stage I cannot see the keys that do not have white strips.

2. Input and outputs on back panel instead of the side where they can be bumped and broken off. Include a power plug in the box, please.

3. Rise 49 Dashboard is missing a slide absolute / relative button. Very annoying to have to use a midi modifier to change multi & single mode to absolute slide.

4. Rise dashboard 3D curves cannot be customized except for positive velocity curve. They should be like the customizable 3D curves in Equator. this would give Rise 49 users better control of the 3D functions.

5. Slide cc74  should be a selectable cc value. I always convert it to cc11 for most synths.


You have a good innovative product here that needs some tweaking to become a great product so I hope you will consider some of my request.  I am looking forward to the growth of this wonderful product.



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Also, regarding (3), we do also hope to introduce selectable Absolute and Relative Slide in the next RISE firmware and ROLI Dashboard updates.


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I second better control of 5d curves in dashboard.  I find myself making the same tweaks to every sound in equator, when it would make much more sense to do that globally.


One option I would also suggest for dashboard.  A third mode for the y-axis.  It would be like absolute, but would treat black and white keys differently, so that the full range was available on the usable half of the key.


For the white keys, 0% would be at the front of the key, and 100% would be from the center point on.  For the black keys, 0% would be from the front of the keyboard to the beginning of the raised portion of the key, and then begin to increase to 100% at the back of the keybed.  At the moment, if I want to use absolute mode to crossfade between 2 sounds, I have to play 'in the cracks' all the time, using the front trough of the black keys, and the back trough of the white ones.....  not actually practical with a block, maybe doable with a rise.


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Hey Matthew,


Thanks for sharing your suggestions. 


The thinking behind (4) is that the general behavior is determined by the 5D Touch settings in ROLI Dashboard (or directly with the RISE's Expression Touch Faders) while the specific behavior is dependent on settings within the application itself. So, for example, Equator and Strobe2 both have more elaborate 5D expression curves that can be saved on a per-patch basis. I see how having more powerful control within ROLI Dashboard could be especially useful when using the RISE with third-party synths that may not have their own 5D expression curves.


Good news is that we do hope to have the Slide CC be selectable in an update to ROLI Dashboard and the RISE firmware. 


Thanks,


Red


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Great new guys, it will help tremendously when using the Rise with other synths besides Equator.


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Good idea Eric, that would also be helpful .

"One option I would also suggest for dashboard.  A third mode for the y-axis.  It would be like absolute, but would treat black and white keys differently, so that the full range was available on the usable half of the key.


For the white keys, 0% would be at the front of the key, and 100% would be from the center point on.  For the black keys, 0% would be from the front of the keyboard to the beginning of the raised portion of the key, and then begin to increase to 100% at the back of the keybed.  At the moment, if I want to use absolute mode to crossfade between 2 sounds, I have to play 'in the cracks' all the time, using the front trough of the black keys, and the back trough of the white ones.....  not actually practical with a block, maybe doable with a rise."


Love this idea, Eric!

Hi Tom,


That's an interesting idea – thanks for sharing.


Cypher2 in particular allows many different responses to Slide, and with some modulation you should be able to get something similar to what you describe. 


In general, the easiest thing that would perhaps approximate what you're after would be to use relative Slide (unipolar in ROLI Dashboard) such that upon Strike (note-on) the Slide value is 0, and as you move up the keywave the Slide value increases.


Red

The  ROLI "thinking" concerning request item #4; better 5D touch controls in Dashboard, is far too narrow. It does not take into account interfacing with hardware synths, most of which do not have scaling controls. I have nearly a dozen hardware synths that will respond correctly to Seaboard input (not including touch-scaling). This is possible using "combi" or "multi" modes which allow a hardware synth to respond on multiple MIDI channels. I  strongly requested this feature a couple of years ago when the Seaboard Grand was the primary product (I'm so depressed that ROLI has completely abandoned support for this fine instrument).  Now days, I'm also using my Rise 49 to control iPad instruments such as the very popular Animoog, which although fully supporting MPE, also does not feature any sort of touch scaling.  So I'm once again adding my voice to request that feature (item #4) in Dashboard.

Hi Steffen, thanks for adding to the discussion. If you haven't already done so, you might vote on this feature request here: https://support.roli.com/support/discussions/topics/36000004943

Could I also add not having the sharp notes trigger in the white troughs.

Yes Eric, I think the same

Dear friends at ROLI! What is the status with introducing selectable Slide CC as well as Absolute/Relative Slide mode for the Seaboard RISE? It really will be tremendously helpful for using the Seaboard with other software and hardware!!!

Hoping for good news, soon ;)




Hi Mark, thanks for asking. 


We're doing testing on these features right now, and we hope to include them in a new firmware version released alongside an update to ROLI Dashboard. While I can't yet give a firm release date, it looks like it's not far off. 


Thanks for your patience in the meantime.

Thanks for the VERY encouraging reply ;)

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