I would love to see a larger RISE. A 61 or even 88 keywave RISE!
While a larger Seaboard than my 49 would be great, in my setup (of three keyboards, the lowest being a VPC 1) I in fact could do a an octave peal for the Seaboard by installing an appropriate Mid preprocessing script, which is rather easy to do in Reaper.
As a pianist, I would consider an 88key Seaboard. That said, I do have a Yamaha Kx88 wooden weighted keybed with velocity and afterrtouch which I can play with one hand, as I play a sax or guitar sample on a Roli Seaboard Rise with my right hand. As I am a trained classical pianist I do not feel I need sequencers or arpeggiators to play live. But what I could use, is an octave pedal for the Seaboard Rise 25, as my other hand is playing another keyboard and the Rise 25 is not always enough keys when I am doing a phrased run..think of the possibilities a Roli octave switch (both up and down) pedal would be to trained musicians in live situations.
I'll buy the next 61/73/88 keywaves version without even thinking...
I don't use a laptop "on stage". I have an "embedded PC " (fanless, SSD) built in a trunk together with an audio interface and a DI box. No PC-Keyboard or Monitor attached when "on stage". Easy to carry around, rigid and reliable.
Huge mistake getting rid go the Grand..Roli dropped the ball getting rid of their flagship product....carrying a laptop around is just a pain and noise app is really a poor compromise-this means a seaboard rise can't really be used live for a regular touring band. (Not risking my laptop on stage)
We need equator on-board thats built into the rise.
I'm now searching for a second hand seaboard grand studio 37/61 if anyone has one to sell let me know...
gerardo, no doubt the market is booming for desktop devices — mostly designed people with little or no keyboard training. But this does not necessarily mean that all the trained keyboardists have suddenly decided to stop playing properly sized keyboards. There's still an entire universe of pianos, synths, workstations, etc. with 61 keys or more. They're that big because people trained to play keyboard often like to use both hands, and you need more than 49 keys to play many keyboard sounds. And trying a split with only 49 keys (or less) is rather useless.
Any lack of success for the Seaboard cannot blamed on the keyboard market disappearing. That market isn't disappearing. Perhaps the Seaboard is just not satisfying the needs of the keyboard market, or maybe (like you) they've confused the keyboard market with these relatively small controllers with keys that are mainly used by 'desktop musicians' and not keyboardists.
I agree with you but you have to understand that electronic music is heading to a context in which the smaller the better… Seaboard is just a tool, one of many, and nobody is going to carry multiple 61 keybeds in a world where most people gig around with just a laptop and small midi devices. That's why Blocks are selling like hot cakes. I do understand your point of view but trust me, if there was market for a bigger model they'd sure done it
If you mainly play in the key of C and/or mainly play only one "voice" at a time, the Rise 37 and 49 are fine. But if you want to play multiple voices in keys other than C, anything smaller than 61 is insufficient. This is why there are so many 61 note keyboards on the market. And historically, organs and harpsichords have usually had about 61 notes per keyboard. This is no surprise when you think about how 61 notes is just enough cover the entire standard range of most musical (and human) voices. With only 49 keys, in a key other than C, if you want to play both a melody and bass part together, the tonic in the bass becomes too high, or the melodic range ends up being too low, and this is awkwardly restrictive when playing big pads, orchestra parts, or multiple voices.
Guys, the reason seaboard has gotten smaller year after year (from the first Grand to the Blocks we have today) is that so many Keys are not needed in modern electronic music. I understand your wish, as a piano player myself, but trust me... I have a SR49 and I regret i didn't go for the 25 because this little gem of hardware excels at creating textures and you don't need a full sized keybed for that ; for solos you have the octave switcher which requires little practice to work with so you're pretty much covered. Then I understand everybody has his own needs but more than 49 is just gimmicky in my modest hopinion (and Roli knows that)
A Rise 61 or 88 would be great. Anything less than 5 octaves is just a toy. Linux (Mint-Ubuntu) support is also essential.
I vote for a connectable standalone 5D 88 keys getting the best of Rise & Grand, I'm pretty sure you'd get easily financed in no time through an online funding campain... just saying ^^
+1 for a Rise 61. If it would exist I would go to the shop today, wile regarding the Rise 49, I am still a bit reluctant.
Yep, a 61- or 88-key 5D for sure, mostly to add the option to use key switching for sample libraries with fixed key switches.
Now the 61 key GRAND is no longer in production, a 5D 88 key controller is definitely on my to buy list, maybe a 61 if my dollar doesn't stretch that far.