ROLI Support

 I just got a second and third seaboard block, and have been very excited to have a 72-note mini-seaboard.

But when I hooked them together I had all sorts of problems.  After some reading on the topic, I learned that each seaboard needs to have it's own range of midi channels.  That is frustrating, as it limits the polyphony of each block to 5.

True polyphony for multiple seaboard blocks would be a big plus for me.  It's what I expected when I bought them.

Also, the present midi-channel-sharing situation seems like a good candidate for an faq.  The only mention I found of the issue was on the Juce developers forum.

I'm hoping that's just because you are expecting to fix it soon!  It's certainly not in keeping with the easy magnetic attachment-detachment.   (Just attach another block.... oh, and also reset all your midi channel ranges!)

Excellent.  It is good to know this is on the radar, thank you!

Yikes! No wonder my 2 blocks have been acting weird, as well as Dashboard forces you to load each block separately... I didn't understand why things were weird until I came across this thread.  It will be crucial for multiple Seaboard Blocks to function like a Rise...

Rob saying "I understand this isn't seamless" is really downplaying the issue by far. It's not just extra effort to set the fixed channels up for several instruments to acommodate their respective channel count. It's a mayor hassle, for sure, but the main issue I have with this is the reduced voice count per block, because there is no way around it, whatever the effort.

The most extreme example I've come across was when I visited a friend who has a hardware synth (the name of which I forgot) that can listen and play 4 channels of MIDI. It was very nice playing it with a single Block, but we would have liked a broader note range. Connecting a second block reduced each block to 2 voices, it just didn't make sense to do that.

Think 3 Blocks - yay, you're free to pick any one single note to play on each Block and one of your Blocks - you can freely choose which one - even allows for 2 notes at the same time! WOW! Doesn't remotely sound like what you see in the official product descriptions and videos, where the presenter happily clicks them together without any issues whatsoever.

It's just ridiculous! Get on with this "future update" already, pleeeeheeheease. You are losing sales because of this!

seamless integration of blocks would appear to be a logical and obvious functionality to me but maybe Roli don't want blocks to compete with Rise? I was going to purchase multiple blocks and rise but not now. Waited a while and then when no fix from Roli didn't purchase anymore blocks or Cypher 2 and returned my blocks to retailer - unusable without proper polyphony

I don't think this has been fixed by now - at least I can't find any new mode. How would that mode be called, Eric?

Your Reaper script is very welcome, even with the current situation it lets me play 5-voice polyphony using 3 Seaboard blocks (yes, I gave in and bought a third one and I am enjoying the play range tremendously, thanks, ROLI) on Omnisphere and the like, which is not superb but good enough for me.

Actually, as said in the Cockos forum thread (I'm gofer over there), I am using a script of my own which does similar things. But I did sucessfully integrate your clever routine to tweak the pitch bend range outside of Dashboard into mine, so lots of thanks for your initiative and share.

That's not to say that ROLI is off the hook! A direct solution will triple the voice count per Block in my setup. But it eased the situation a lot for Reaper users.

Same here, Was going to purchase 1or 2 more Seaboard blocks and a lightpad but it sounds like a pain to get to work with Omnisphere. Is it the same with Cypher 2?

Thanks

I haven't tested thoroughly, but it looks like this may have been fixed?  Roli?

There is a new mode that does not require you to assign voices seperately to each board.  It seems to be working, but I haven't put it under the microscope.

If not, if you are using REAPER, I've written an MPE plugin that will rechannelize for you.  Search for MPE on the forums.  It wasn't difficult to code, which is why I'm confident it will be addressed by Roli if it hasn't already.

craig sebree said:

As much as I am looking forward to a proper solution, and while I am one of the participiants in this thread that kept the pressure high to finally solve the issue I'd like to point out:

The current situation does certainly not make multiple Seaboard or Lightpad blocks unusable. Like, at all.

It is inconvenient to set them up and there are in fact extreme cases where per-block-polyphony is significantly reduced to a ridiculous level, if you push it and don't work around (using something like Eric Moon's script for Reaper, for example). If those extreme cases are the only situation where you intend to use Blocks and you don't have the means to create a workaround, then yep, don't buy in yet.

In practice, I am regularly using 3 Seaboard Blocks and 2 Lightpads all working together with great results. On the 3 Seaboards I get 5 voices per Block and I never have the feeling that I'd need more fingers on a single Block. Actually I don't even bother to set them back to full polyphony when I am not using them all.

So, while the current situation is far from ideal, the little rascals prove their usability in practical terms each and every day in this humble project studio. I love 'em, warts and all.

It turns out that the recommended workaround - assign dedicated channel ranges for each connected Seaboard/Lightpad Block - is not compatible with ROLI Studio Player. RSP will forcefully overwrite the settings done in Dashboard and replace them with a version that results in the dreaded channel overlap issue between devices to raise its ugly head again - this time with no possible workaround in sight.

Effectively, playing multiple Seaboard Blocks (as well as Lightpads in Note grid mode) is currently not supported in RSP!

If that is not motivation enough to finally solve the Block's channel problem, what is? Btw, we are now  approaching 9 month without any change in neither soft- nor firmware concerning Blocks! Give them some love they deserve, please.

On a personal note:

I already raised this issue in the RSP beta, but it seems that all my RSP beta threads aren't available anymore since RSP went official. Without warning - which is something I don't like at all, to be honest. Some of those threads contained information that took my time and effort to gather and put into words! I would have saved them elsewhere if I were informed, because I'd like to use the info for future reference or future ROLI beta testing :(

Can You guys tell me exactly how is this trick of dividing the voices between blocks done?

Thinking about buying another seaboard block, have you released a fix for this?

Thinking about buying another Block Seaboard. Has this issue been addressed yet? 

I would also like to know if this has been resolved